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he just passed the governor of montana there. here's john tester, the recently elected senator who was elected in 2006. and the president is hoping to get challenged a little bit directly so he can knock down some of what he thinks are myths about health care reform. they ticketed the event to try to make that happen, giving out two tickets to everybody who showed up, so there could be some mystery guests show up. this is really a critical moment for barack obama in health care reform. this is his first year to try to get this. we have seen presidents' political capital diminish after they get to their first year. they staked the success of his presidency on getting health care reform, for trying to change the underlying economic basis of the country and to resolve a problem that's bedevilled democrats for 70 years now. harry truman tried to get health care reform. franklin roosevelt tried to get it. this new, young president is working this very hard and we talked earlier in the hour to nancy-ann deparle, the director of the off
he just passed the governor of montana there. here's john tester, the recently elected senator who was elected in 2006. and the president is hoping to get challenged a little bit directly so he can knock down some of what he thinks are myths about health care reform. they ticketed the event to try to make that happen, giving out two tickets to everybody who showed up, so there could be some mystery guests show up. this is really a critical moment for barack obama in health care reform. this is...
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a tough time in montana. just six months ago, we were in the middle of the worst recession in our lifetimes. we were losing about 700,000 jobs each month. that's why we acted as fast as we could to pass a recovery plan to stop the free fall. i want to speak briefly about the recovery plan because that has colored how people view the health care debate. it was divided into three parts. 1/3 of that money went to tax cuts that have started showing up in the paychecks of about 400,000 working families in montana. 400,000 working families have seen their taxes reduced because of the recovery act. we also cut taxes for small businesses on the investments they make and more than 200 montana small businesses have now qualified for new loans, including ten right in the bozeman area. another third is for emergency relief. what am i talking about? unemployment insurance? we've extended benefits for 40,000 montana residents. we've made health insurance 60% cheaper for families who rely on cobra. i think as your governor
a tough time in montana. just six months ago, we were in the middle of the worst recession in our lifetimes. we were losing about 700,000 jobs each month. that's why we acted as fast as we could to pass a recovery plan to stop the free fall. i want to speak briefly about the recovery plan because that has colored how people view the health care debate. it was divided into three parts. 1/3 of that money went to tax cuts that have started showing up in the paychecks of about 400,000 working...
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thank you, montana. thank you, montana. everybody have a seat. we will try to take as many questions as we can. we will ask it to raise a hand, and i will go girl-boy, girl- boy, so i do not get in trouble. once i call on you, if you can just wait until they bring the microphone, stand up, so we can all see your lovely face, introduce yourself, and then i will answer the question. the lady in the blue dress, right there. right there. >> without going into too much details, can you pick and choose from systems that work, where we see a success rate and apply that to what we're trying to do now? >> first of all, it is important for everyone to understand that america spends $5,000 to $6,000 each person more than any other advanced nation on earth. if you think, how can that be, if you have health insurance through your job, what portion is going to health insurance? you do not notice it. but a bigger percentage is going to health care. that is the first point. we have a system that is less efficient than it should be because we are not healthy than
thank you, montana. thank you, montana. everybody have a seat. we will try to take as many questions as we can. we will ask it to raise a hand, and i will go girl-boy, girl- boy, so i do not get in trouble. once i call on you, if you can just wait until they bring the microphone, stand up, so we can all see your lovely face, introduce yourself, and then i will answer the question. the lady in the blue dress, right there. right there. >> without going into too much details, can you pick...
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if i am in montana, i have to call somebody with a cowboy hat, absolutely. >> montana ambassadress, we are a business advisory group appointed by the governor. i would like to welcome you on behalf of the montana ambassadors. >> you make a great ambassador. >> i am glad you called me. my question has to do with the cobra question. i owned a lumberyard in a beautiful little town of 1000 people about 30 miles southwest of here. when the economy took a nosedive, i was forced to take my work force from 11 people to six. . . provide things in my responsibility on like to take care of our peeps so to speak. >> is that a montana phrase? peeps? [applause] [laughter] . . they were pretty much out on their own and i was wondering what we can do to eliminate discrimination against small employers. we are a lumberyard, we are out there lifting things all day. every one of my employees are fit. why are we able to provide a lesser level of benefits to my employees and yet an employer with 30 employers who have cubicles and they sit on their butt, they get a better rate? >> that is a pretty good ques
if i am in montana, i have to call somebody with a cowboy hat, absolutely. >> montana ambassadress, we are a business advisory group appointed by the governor. i would like to welcome you on behalf of the montana ambassadors. >> you make a great ambassador. >> i am glad you called me. my question has to do with the cobra question. i owned a lumberyard in a beautiful little town of 1000 people about 30 miles southwest of here. when the economy took a nosedive, i was forced to...
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he is on his way to montana for another health care town hall. why montana? is there an expectation for a lively debate at this town hall? >> montana is a historical red state. there might be a bit more of an opportunity for controversy. on tuesday in portsmouth, new hampshire, he solicited more skeptical questions. we will see if that plays out. montana is also the home of max baucus. that committee will be the center of gravity. when congress comes back in the middle of september, the white house has set this deadline for the committee. if it does not, the white house has indicated, it might proceed strictly on its own without the -- without republicans on board. max baucus is a central figure in this legislative drama. rick: we want to hear from you if you have received an unsolicited email from the white house. tell us about it. for moron this, we have a couple of great guests. we're also joined by an editor for "the national review." everybody hates chain letters. >> particularly, if they are coming from the white house. rick: what do you make all of thi
he is on his way to montana for another health care town hall. why montana? is there an expectation for a lively debate at this town hall? >> montana is a historical red state. there might be a bit more of an opportunity for controversy. on tuesday in portsmouth, new hampshire, he solicited more skeptical questions. we will see if that plays out. montana is also the home of max baucus. that committee will be the center of gravity. when congress comes back in the middle of september, the...
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we have extended benefits for 40,000 montana residents. we have made health insurance 65% cheaper for families who rely on kober when they lose their job and they are out there looking for work. [applause] i think as your governor will testify for states facing historic budget shortfalls we provide assistance that is save the jobs of tens of thousands of workers who provide essential services like teachers and police officers. we have prevented painful job cuts but we have also prevented a lot of painful state and local tax increases. so, that is two-thirds of the recovery act. the last third of the recovery act is for investments that are already putting people back to work, rebuilding infrastructure. their nearly 70 transportation projects already improved here in montana. these are just fixing up the roads that run to the national forests. could just doing the work that america needs done and most of the work is being done by local businesses because that is how we are going to get this economy growing again. so there is no doubt that t
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i want to take you to montana. this is a town hall debate that the president had. listen to randy rathy, what he had to say. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a dark room there for months now trying to come up with some money to pay for these programs and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here, you're saving over there. going to take a little money there, take a little money there. you have no money. the only way to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. max baucus says he doesn't want to put a bill out that will. but that's the only way you can do that. >> congressman, isn't he right? >> i can't believe that -- that our democracy is so fragile that people have no answer to a very serious problem would just try to create animosity and hatred rather than try to sit down and first find out what is the problem, how costly is it and what does it take in order to stop it. there's no question that almost everyone listening to this show have known som
i want to take you to montana. this is a town hall debate that the president had. listen to randy rathy, what he had to say. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a dark room there for months now trying to come up with some money to pay for these programs and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here, you're saving over there. going to take a little money there, take a little money there. you...
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hosting a town hall meeting in montana today. michael vick holding a news conference today with the coach of his new team the philadelphia eagles. vick knows he did terrible things running a dogfighting ring and he wants a second chance. and on this day in 1985, a singer named michael jackson secretly outbid his friend, paul mccartney for the publishing rights to nearly every beatle's song. the beatles, of course, have produced some of the best known and best selling music in pop history. the publishing rights to tul it all, highly lucrative. in the early '60's john lennon and mccartney split ownership of. the wishing bidder michael jackson at more than 47 million. it's worth many times than that now. mccarthy was lived because he told jackson to invest in music publishing. the king of pop got a ticket to ride 24 years ago today. and now you know the news for this friday, august the 14th, 2008. i'm shepard smith. make it a great
hosting a town hall meeting in montana today. michael vick holding a news conference today with the coach of his new team the philadelphia eagles. vick knows he did terrible things running a dogfighting ring and he wants a second chance. and on this day in 1985, a singer named michael jackson secretly outbid his friend, paul mccartney for the publishing rights to nearly every beatle's song. the beatles, of course, have produced some of the best known and best selling music in pop history. the...
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we have extended benefits for 40,000 montana residents. we have made health insurance 65% cheaper for families who rely on kober when they lose their job and they are out there looking for work. [applause] i think as your governor will testify for states facing historic budget shortfalls we provide assistance that is save the jobs of tens of thousands of workers who provide essential services like teachers and police officers. we have prevented painful job cuts but we have also prevented a lot of painful state and local tax increases. so, that is two-thirds of the recovery act. the last third of the recovery act is for investments that are already putting people back to work, rebuilding infrastructure. their nearly 70 transportation projects already improved here in montana. these are just fixing up the roads that run to the national forests. could just doing the work that america needs done and most of the work is being done by local businesses because that is how we are going to get this economy growing again. so there is no doubt that t
we have extended benefits for 40,000 montana residents. we have made health insurance 65% cheaper for families who rely on kober when they lose their job and they are out there looking for work. [applause] i think as your governor will testify for states facing historic budget shortfalls we provide assistance that is save the jobs of tens of thousands of workers who provide essential services like teachers and police officers. we have prevented painful job cuts but we have also prevented a lot...
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this is an airport hangar in belgrade, montana is just over an hour. >> palin, montana. thank you. thank you. have they see. thank you so much. thank you. i am excited to be back in montana. where is michelle? michelle and the girls were supposed to go whitewater rafting. i just heard some rain to wonder not know what is going on out there. they are on their way. i want to acknowledge some outstanding public officials and friends. first of all, the man who is working tirelessly to make sure that the american people get a fair deal when it comes to health care in america. please give max baucus a big round of applause. please give max baucus a big round of applause. [applause] one of my favorite people in washington, probably because he has not gone washington, still gets the same haircut. give it up for john. [applause] your own start here in montana, the great governor of this state, please give brian schweitzer and his lovely wife, nancy, a big round of applause. [applause] the lieutenant government, john bollinger, is here. give john a big round of applause. [applause] the mayor
this is an airport hangar in belgrade, montana is just over an hour. >> palin, montana. thank you. thank you. have they see. thank you so much. thank you. i am excited to be back in montana. where is michelle? michelle and the girls were supposed to go whitewater rafting. i just heard some rain to wonder not know what is going on out there. they are on their way. i want to acknowledge some outstanding public officials and friends. first of all, the man who is working tirelessly to make...
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everybody loves montana. this is our first guest tonight joining me now, from montana, is nbc news political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. chuck, on a very light note tonight, it's been a long week. have a big steak on big eddie tonight, will you? you're in steak country out there. can we work that out? >> can i tell you, you bring up a good point. everybody here is in a good mood. i know -- we noticed that with -- whether they were for the president, opponents of the president. everybody does seem to be happy to live here. and if you look at the backdrop outside of the plane, behind the plane, you can see why. those mountains are very refreshing. the air is refreshing. it is kind of nice. you see why everybody's in a good mood. i have to say the governor is watching me as i do this, go ahead. >> he's known for twisting arms. we've got him on the program in a minute. are we watching a popular president in montana today? i ask because the television cameras, it looked like an amiable
everybody loves montana. this is our first guest tonight joining me now, from montana, is nbc news political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. chuck, on a very light note tonight, it's been a long week. have a big steak on big eddie tonight, will you? you're in steak country out there. can we work that out? >> can i tell you, you bring up a good point. everybody here is in a good mood. i know -- we noticed that with -- whether they were for the president, opponents...
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it is a tough time here in montana. just six months ago, we were in the middle of the wore the recession in our lifetime. we were losing about 700 jobs each month. economists feared the great coming of a great depression. we acted as fast as we could to pass a recovery plan to stop the free-fall. i want to speak briefly about the recovery plan, because that has colored how people view the health care debate. the recovery plan was divided into three parts. one-third of the money in the recovery act went to tax cuts that have already started showing up in the paychecks of about 400,000 working families in montana. 400,000 working families have seen their taxes reduced because of receipt covery act. we cut taxes for small businesses. more have qualified for new loans including ten businesses in the bozeman area. another third of the money is for emergency relief for folks who have born the brunt of this recession. what am i talking about? unemployment insurance. we have extended benefits for 40,000 montana residents. we ha
it is a tough time here in montana. just six months ago, we were in the middle of the wore the recession in our lifetime. we were losing about 700 jobs each month. economists feared the great coming of a great depression. we acted as fast as we could to pass a recovery plan to stop the free-fall. i want to speak briefly about the recovery plan, because that has colored how people view the health care debate. the recovery plan was divided into three parts. one-third of the money in the recovery...
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he then went from the east way up here into montana in the west. the president having another town hall out here. short sleeves out in the west. interesting, in montana, the president lost to john mccain, but just narrowly there. and when you get further west, you have increased skepticism about washington and about government spending and the role of government in health care. and the president wrapped up his week with a town hall in colorado out here in the conservative part of the state. this was a red state he turned blue in the election, but out in conservative grand junction, interesting in colorado, 17% of the state's residents lack health insurance. 9% are are on medicare. and 8.5% on medicaid. as we watch the president travel politically, many of his own allies, even some of his allies say, they are more and more skeptical he can get this bill this year. you share that skepticism? >> i don't. i think that the debate across the country is -- reflects the fact that americans care deeply about health care. it's the most personal issue to most
he then went from the east way up here into montana in the west. the president having another town hall out here. short sleeves out in the west. interesting, in montana, the president lost to john mccain, but just narrowly there. and when you get further west, you have increased skepticism about washington and about government spending and the role of government in health care. and the president wrapped up his week with a town hall in colorado out here in the conservative part of the state....
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he will be in belgrade, montana, to talk about his plan to overhaul the nation's health- care system. on saturday, the first family plans to spend part of the day in yellowstone. afterward, president obama has to another forum in grand junction, colorado. white house officials have said that the trip is partly aimed at encouraging people to visit national parks, as well as to get out the message on health care. this morning, "washington journal" asked to be worse if the message is indeed getting out. we will show you as much as we can -- a view is if the message is indeed getting out. we will show you as much as we can. have the health care protests changed your mind? beginning with a call from sun city, fla. on the independent line. what is your thinking as an independent? caller: thanks for taking my call. it has changed my mind a bit. i think the american people would benefit by being a self- insured group, and i think it is nice that obama it is given a choice. what i would like to impress everyone with and this is very important -- on ofe the things we must do is lower costs, the
he will be in belgrade, montana, to talk about his plan to overhaul the nation's health- care system. on saturday, the first family plans to spend part of the day in yellowstone. afterward, president obama has to another forum in grand junction, colorado. white house officials have said that the trip is partly aimed at encouraging people to visit national parks, as well as to get out the message on health care. this morning, "washington journal" asked to be worse if the message is...
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this was and montana. two questions i would consider tough, but there were not even that, but they concerned health- care overhaul. he has found a more focused villain, that is health care companies. he referred to them no less than 31 times in this speech in question, saying that insurance companies have essentially been the big block in addressing health care for all americans in furthermore, saying that a big impediment on removing that impediment him moving health care for all that you cannot be denied coverage from pre- existing conditions or have your coverage not carried to another job, the so-called issue of portability. it is interesting to note as well that the president wanted to take his critics head-on. of the many questions he received, only to her would be considered critical questions. the president saying that a lot of this whole drama over health care and what it is going to be providing and what it will provide has turned into an emotional gambit. the president saying that tv loves a ruc
this was and montana. two questions i would consider tough, but there were not even that, but they concerned health- care overhaul. he has found a more focused villain, that is health care companies. he referred to them no less than 31 times in this speech in question, saying that insurance companies have essentially been the big block in addressing health care for all americans in furthermore, saying that a big impediment on removing that impediment him moving health care for all that you...
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but even though montana had strong opinions, they didn't shout at one another. they were there to listen. that reflects the american people. and what our democracy is about and a lot more than what what's been covered on tv the last few days. that's why i thank all of you, whether you're for or against health care reform, for being here today. i'm going to take a bunch of questions. before i do, i want to talk about what health insurance reform will mean for you. 'cause there is a lot of misunderstanding. first of all, what we're proposing is a common sense set of consumer protection for people with health insurance, people with private health insurance. i expect that after reform passes, the vast majority of americans are still going to be getting their insurance from private insurers. so we've got to have some protections in place for people like nathan, people like you. so insurance companies will no longer be able to place an arbitrary cap on the amount of coverage you can receive or charge outrageous out of pocket expenses on top of your premiums. that's wh
but even though montana had strong opinions, they didn't shout at one another. they were there to listen. that reflects the american people. and what our democracy is about and a lot more than what what's been covered on tv the last few days. that's why i thank all of you, whether you're for or against health care reform, for being here today. i'm going to take a bunch of questions. before i do, i want to talk about what health insurance reform will mean for you. 'cause there is a lot of...
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trace: we're going to montana. a much more conservative part of the country. actually, it is a suburb. bill, will this be set up differently because of the criticism the white house got. will this be set up differently? will they let different people in? >> you would hope that he would have a few people in theire. you see that he appreciates the impression he is getting to the bigger problem is that he has to answer the questions. he has to answer these single payer questions. he has to answer the cbo. he is normally do that. we have another artificial deadline of september 15. the american people are naturally skeptical. trace: bill, do you want to respond to the upcoming town hall meetings? >> yes, he needs a couple craz ies to ask him questions. he needs to have a foil so he can say these are the people -- i can discredit them. if he gets polite questions like he did last time about will not help the president. trace: thank you very much. we have breaking news in los angeles. there's a standoff. this standoff in some capacity involves the secret service. we
trace: we're going to montana. a much more conservative part of the country. actually, it is a suburb. bill, will this be set up differently because of the criticism the white house got. will this be set up differently? will they let different people in? >> you would hope that he would have a few people in theire. you see that he appreciates the impression he is getting to the bigger problem is that he has to answer the questions. he has to answer these single payer questions. he has to...
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by the way, virginia, colorado, and the montana -- montana. those are three states where the president will be visiting. they are key states. but me see the president later today in montana, what do you think the white house wants out of this? do they won a reprieve from new hampshire? >> i think in some ways they want to see a repeat of new hampshire which is in docile audience,ç in the wreck we screened by the white house -- indirectly screened by the white house. it is also a larger name of the democrats, taking aim on the rocky mountain area. çwinningis key, but looking ahead to the next presidential election, they will be focusing on those areas. bill: thank you. we will see what happens of those town halls. megyn: the fastest growing religion group in the u.s. is none of the above. more and more people identify themselves as a unaffiliated. does that mean that churches are giving up on expanding? anita vogel is with us now. what are churches doing? >> let's talk about the survey first. the q research group interviewed 35,000 people,
by the way, virginia, colorado, and the montana -- montana. those are three states where the president will be visiting. they are key states. but me see the president later today in montana, what do you think the white house wants out of this? do they won a reprieve from new hampshire? >> i think in some ways they want to see a repeat of new hampshire which is in docile audience,ç in the wreck we screened by the white house -- indirectly screened by the white house. it is also a larger...
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>> he is going to bozeman, montana to a county where he carried by 1600 votes. they have voted twice for him -- for george bush in the past. there is some sense and that they want to get max baucus' attention by going there, and montana is ground zero for health care reform, because that is where he is from. we have already seen people lining up to get tickets to the event. bill: there is a gallup poll out today that says independent voters are moving in a certain way. 35% are more sympathetic to the views of the protesters, opposed to 16% who are less sympathetic. how are these numbers being received? >> in the briefing yesterday, we heard robert kids say that some people were somewhat disappointed that he did not get a tougher response in new hampshire. he constantly talked about the food fight of the debate and have cable news is feeding on this, but clearly from the gallup poll, independents are starting to become sympathetic with these people protesting. certainly not good in terms of public opinion. bill: thank you. megyn: do you remember the other day whe
>> he is going to bozeman, montana to a county where he carried by 1600 votes. they have voted twice for him -- for george bush in the past. there is some sense and that they want to get max baucus' attention by going there, and montana is ground zero for health care reform, because that is where he is from. we have already seen people lining up to get tickets to the event. bill: there is a gallup poll out today that says independent voters are moving in a certain way. 35% are more...
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>>> en una reunión en montana el presidente obama atacó las practicas de las aseguradoras - california despachó más bomberos por los incendios que hablí gado a miles de personas a dejar sus casas en santa cruz. >>> se dio luz verde a una polémica ley de educación choques entre manifestantes y la policía. >>> el dicho que el que persevera alcanza un niño pudo entrevistar al presidente obama y lo logró. >>> este es su noticiero univisión, con jorge ramos y maría elena salinas >>> buenas noches el presidente barack obama salió al ataque para defender sus planes, para cambiar la manera como funciona el sistema de salud en este país en montana el presidente atacó a las compañías de seguros. diciendo que cobran mucho y no cubren a todas las personas. ante las fuertes criticas y el peligro que el congreso rechace sus ideas. el presidente ha salido a defender personalmente su plan. >>> el presidente obama atacó las practicas de la compañías de seguro en este foro puúblico y desmintió un principal argumento de opositores. >>> esto n es que el gobierno va a asumir el control.
>>> en una reunión en montana el presidente obama atacó las practicas de las aseguradoras - california despachó más bomberos por los incendios que hablí gado a miles de personas a dejar sus casas en santa cruz. >>> se dio luz verde a una polémica ley de educación choques entre manifestantes y la policía. >>> el dicho que el que persevera alcanza un niño pudo entrevistar al presidente obama y lo logró. >>> este es su noticiero univisión, con jorge...
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when we come back, we're going back to montana. we're going to speak with that gentleman from the nra, a supporter of the national rifle association who asked that question of president obama on whether or not he was going to go forward and raise taxes in order to pay for health care reform. ( siren blaring ) special interest groups are trying to block progress on health care reform, derailing the debate with myths and scare tactics. desperately trying to stop you from discovering that reform won't force you to give up your current coverage. you'll still be able to choose your doctor and insurance plan. tell congress not to let myths get in the way of fixing what's broken with health care. learn the facts at healthactionnow.org. wellbeing. we're all striving for it. purina cat chow helps you nuture it in your cat... with a full family of excellent nutrition... and helpful resources. ♪ purina cat chow. share a better life. >>> john lemon is monitoring other stories important incoming to "the situation room." what's going on? >>> t
when we come back, we're going back to montana. we're going to speak with that gentleman from the nra, a supporter of the national rifle association who asked that question of president obama on whether or not he was going to go forward and raise taxes in order to pay for health care reform. ( siren blaring ) special interest groups are trying to block progress on health care reform, derailing the debate with myths and scare tactics. desperately trying to stop you from discovering that reform...
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and saturday when he hits the road for town hall meetings in two conservative areas of the country, montana and colorado. it won't be easy. poll numbers show 34% of americans say the loud disruptions at town hall meetings in recent days have made them sympathetic to the protesters concerns. >> supports insist there is a lot of misinformation of what might be ebb include ned plan and they argue leaving the system as it is just won't work. joel brown, cbs news, the white house. >> barack obama will hold a health care reform town hall meeting tomorrow in belgrade, montana and then another one over the weekend in grand junction, colorado. >>> u.s. marines are on the move in southern afghanistan staging an offensive in a taliban held area. the marines had to rescue families who were trapped in a compound near a village where they were fighting. they treated the wounded and moved the families to a safe area. the marines, alternate troops and afghan army forces are trying to reverse the taliban resurgence in southern afghanistan and make it safe for the civilians. >>> an iphone owner in france say
and saturday when he hits the road for town hall meetings in two conservative areas of the country, montana and colorado. it won't be easy. poll numbers show 34% of americans say the loud disruptions at town hall meetings in recent days have made them sympathetic to the protesters concerns. >> supports insist there is a lot of misinformation of what might be ebb include ned plan and they argue leaving the system as it is just won't work. joel brown, cbs news, the white house. >>...
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. >>> barack obama is in montana today to give a final push to health care reform before heading off on a vacation. the president is holding another town hall meeting and the big question is, will it turn hostile like the other debates across the country. manuel gallegus is reporting. >> reporter: here in the mountain west, a massive government health care overhaul is a hard sell. >> i think there will be some protesters for sure, but i also think there will be a lot of people out there that really think he is doing the right thing. >> reporter: president obama came very close to winning montana in last year's election. and plenty of bozeman residents say better health care coverage is worth a fight. >> i do know that you have we have to something. >> reporter: it is the confusion surrounding what is actually in the legislation that makes many skeptical. >> i'm not clear on what the package means but we certainly need improvements to the system. >> reporter: president obama arrived at this hangar later this afternoon to play the role of salesman in chief. the tickets were given out f
. >>> barack obama is in montana today to give a final push to health care reform before heading off on a vacation. the president is holding another town hall meeting and the big question is, will it turn hostile like the other debates across the country. manuel gallegus is reporting. >> reporter: here in the mountain west, a massive government health care overhaul is a hard sell. >> i think there will be some protesters for sure, but i also think there will be a lot of...
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so, ed, why montana? >> reporter: well, kyra, look, this president realizes, that as you noted, in big sky country, a lot of people do not trust the federal government. i talked to very top white house aides who say, look, in private they admit that the president's critics have gained a lot of ground by really harping on this argument that it's a federal takeover of the health care system. and the president's aides say in private, look, after all the federal bailouts, the auto industry, banks, et cetera, people are fed up with the federal government getting involved in their lives. they realize that at the white house. and so they're trying to push back on that. and the president coming to what might not be that friendly territory. he certainly made a strong run here in the mountain west. won some of the states like colorado and nevada, but did not win montana. he came close. but he tried to show in the campaign last year that he was not afraid to go to states like this that many democrats have given up i
so, ed, why montana? >> reporter: well, kyra, look, this president realizes, that as you noted, in big sky country, a lot of people do not trust the federal government. i talked to very top white house aides who say, look, in private they admit that the president's critics have gained a lot of ground by really harping on this argument that it's a federal takeover of the health care system. and the president's aides say in private, look, after all the federal bailouts, the auto industry,...
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so just yesterday -- [ applause ] just yesterday, i held a town hall in belgrade, montana. and we had a pretty good crowd. some were big supporters of reform. some had concerns and questions. and i got tough questions. but even though montana's had strong opinions, they didn't shout at one another, they were there to listen. and that reflects the american people. and what our democracy is about, a lot more than what's been covered on tv these last few days, and that's why i thank all of you, whether you're before or against health care for being here today. i'm going to take a bunch of questions, but before i do, i wanted to talk about what health insurance reform will mean for you, because there's a lot of misunderstandings out there. first of all, what we're proposing is a common sense set of consumer protections, for people with health insurance, people with private health insurance. i expect that after reform passes, the vast majority of americans are still going to be getting their insurance from private insurers. so we have got to have some protections in place for pe
so just yesterday -- [ applause ] just yesterday, i held a town hall in belgrade, montana. and we had a pretty good crowd. some were big supporters of reform. some had concerns and questions. and i got tough questions. but even though montana's had strong opinions, they didn't shout at one another, they were there to listen. and that reflects the american people. and what our democracy is about, a lot more than what's been covered on tv these last few days, and that's why i thank all of you,...
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he was at a town hall meeting in belgrade, montana. the president challenged the way in which television news organizations are covering town hall meetings being covered by congressman. president obama says tv loves a ruckus, as he put it. but the president said nothing new about his health care proposals. ed henry traveling with the president reports from big sky, montana. >> reporter: the president's town hall was gentle by congressional standards, but he did get one pointed question about his health reform plan. >> we keep getting the bull. that's all we get, is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. the only way you're going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> look, you are absolutely right. that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> reporter: the president vowed again he will not raise taxes on the middle class to pay for the difference. >> when i was campaigning, i made a promise that i would not raise your taxes if you made $250,000 a year or less. that's what i sa
he was at a town hall meeting in belgrade, montana. the president challenged the way in which television news organizations are covering town hall meetings being covered by congressman. president obama says tv loves a ruckus, as he put it. but the president said nothing new about his health care proposals. ed henry traveling with the president reports from big sky, montana. >> reporter: the president's town hall was gentle by congressional standards, but he did get one pointed question...
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the rage over health care reform. >> hello, montana! >> reporter: it was clear from the start though this crowd was on his side. >> if we can get it done this year, the american people are going to be better off. thank you, montana. >> reporter: the questions were mostly softball. >> welcome and thank you, and i believe in reform as well. >> reporter: the president even tried some humor. >> here in montana you've got bears and moose, elk, and in washington you just have mostly bull. >> reporter: then, finally, some anger from a man who turned the president's humor against him. >> we keep getting the bull, that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. >> reporter: it's unlikely the questioner was as pleased with the answer as the crowd was. >> 2/3 of the money we can obtain just from eliminating waste and inefficiencys. >> reporter: at one point the president even asked for a tougher question. >> i want somebody who, who's got a concern or a skeptical about health care. >> reporter: and he got an upset in
the rage over health care reform. >> hello, montana! >> reporter: it was clear from the start though this crowd was on his side. >> if we can get it done this year, the american people are going to be better off. thank you, montana. >> reporter: the questions were mostly softball. >> welcome and thank you, and i believe in reform as well. >> reporter: the president even tried some humor. >> here in montana you've got bears and moose, elk, and in...
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[applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >> thanks for having me here. the hannity headquarters. sean: i like that. let's start with the poll numbers and you brought the black board and let's look. >> this is the backdrop. his job approval in the fox poll, 53-40 approve, disapprove. but among independents, 49-44 and that is a shift from a few weeks ago when it was 54-38. so in a matter of three weeks, it has declined among independents and you see that same decline in independents in health care reform. 34% approve. 49 disapprove. among independents, 29-50 and in july it was 33-43. sean: i want to stay on
[applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >>...
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how ready is the administration as he heads to montana? how ready is he to face people that aren't his typical fans? people that really are going to disrupt the process? can they handle that? >> well, i think two weeks ago, i would have said no. i think they were caught flat-footed, that the fight over health care had become, to borrow a phrase, i think chris matthews said it first, part of the culture wars. when something gets into the culture war aspect, i'm talking about god, gays and abortion those inflaming passions in the '90s and maybe in the early part of the 21st century, i think that isn't what they expected health care to become. i think they thought it was going to be a policy debate and i think they thought it was going to be a washington debate and i think maybe they underestimated the concern that's out there, the sort of anti-government sentiment that is out there, maybe the anger at the banks and anger at wall street and all of it got conflatted. if you notice in the last two weeks you see a refinement of democratic talkin
how ready is the administration as he heads to montana? how ready is he to face people that aren't his typical fans? people that really are going to disrupt the process? can they handle that? >> well, i think two weeks ago, i would have said no. i think they were caught flat-footed, that the fight over health care had become, to borrow a phrase, i think chris matthews said it first, part of the culture wars. when something gets into the culture war aspect, i'm talking about god, gays and...
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president obama received an enthusiastic welcome in reliably republican montana. >> hello montana! >> reporter: he came on a mission to change the increasingly angry debate over health care reform, saying americans are being held hostage by insurance companies. >> it's wrong. it's bankrupting families. it's bankrupting business. and we are going to fix it. >> reporter: but randy wanted to know how the government would pay for it. >> and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. >> the president said 2/3 of the plan would be paid for by eliminating waste. >> we've got to get over this notion that somehow we can have something for nothing. because that's part of how we got into the deficits and the debt that we're in the first place. >> reporter: it was the kind of difficult conversation that the president said showed how a democracy is supposed to work. as for the outrage at some forums -- [ yelling ] >> reporter: president blames special interest groups for trying to scare voters. >> for all the scare tactics out there,
president obama received an enthusiastic welcome in reliably republican montana. >> hello montana! >> reporter: he came on a mission to change the increasingly angry debate over health care reform, saying americans are being held hostage by insurance companies. >> it's wrong. it's bankrupting families. it's bankrupting business. and we are going to fix it. >> reporter: but randy wanted to know how the government would pay for it. >> and we keep getting the bull....
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[applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >> thanks for having me here. the hannity headquarters. sean: i like that. let's start with the poll numbers and you brought the black board and let's look. >> this is the backdrop. his job approval in the fox poll, 53-40 approve, disapprove. but among independents, 49-44 and that is a shift from a few weeks ago when it was 54-38. so in a matter of three weeks, it has declined among independents and you see that same decline in independents in health care reform. 34% approve. 49 disapprove. among independents, 29-50 and in july it was 33-43. sean: i want to stay on
[applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >>...
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. >>> the president's going to go on the road tomorrow, a town hall meeting in montana, max bachus's backyard. if there was ever a time to call out a colleague and not giving the president what he wants, it would be max backus. what's the mission here? >> the mitts is none too subtle. carol lee tomorrow on politico is reporting that the tickets will be given out for the president's town hall on health care in a little different way, first come, first served, which means there could be more dissent and a little more excitement. people have said the president is good at asking questions, he should go ahead and take the tough questions, nobody is going to rattle him, and he doesn't get tagged with the suggestion he does, that the questions were too easy, because the people were screaming, so maybe a little excitement tomorrow night in montana. >> thanks, mike. mike allen from politico tonight with us on "the ed show." >>> what is your church doing about health care? anything? i'm calling on the leadership of the christian community to explain to me where they stand, and when it comes to
. >>> the president's going to go on the road tomorrow, a town hall meeting in montana, max bachus's backyard. if there was ever a time to call out a colleague and not giving the president what he wants, it would be max backus. what's the mission here? >> the mitts is none too subtle. carol lee tomorrow on politico is reporting that the tickets will be given out for the president's town hall on health care in a little different way, first come, first served, which means there...
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[applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >> thanks for having me here. the hannity headquarters. sean: i like that. let's start with the poll numbers and you brought the black board and let's look. >> this is the backdrop. his job approval in the fox poll, 53-40 approve, disapprove. but among independents, 49-44 and that is a shift from a few weeks ago when it was 54-38. so in a matter of three weeks, it has declined among independents and you see that same decline in independents in health care reform. 34% approve. 49 disapprove. among independents, 29-50 and in july it was 33-43. sean: i want to stay on
[applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >>...
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so when i found this one in montana, we went after it. i think the day i bought it, it was covered in snow and about 50 below. i need to do some work on the carburetor to get it to operate like it should. but -- and change some sheet metal on it. when i'm through, it will have all of the options. i'm still looking for a hillside drop bar. i do have the power takeoff for it. and this was the -- so i understand the first tractor to come out with the power takeoff. one interesting thing on this, it's got three tanks. the little tank is for gasoline starting. the largest tank is for fuel, which it would use care seen or gasoline,. and the middle size tank was for water. >> do you like this tractor. >> i will when i get through with it. >> in 1927, it cost $1,250 to purchase it new. >>> the presbyterian church near north carolina, one of the oldest in the state gets the first country church salute. they celebrated 250 years in 2006. the location was believed to be the winter site of corn wallace and a site of great interest for history fans. t
so when i found this one in montana, we went after it. i think the day i bought it, it was covered in snow and about 50 below. i need to do some work on the carburetor to get it to operate like it should. but -- and change some sheet metal on it. when i'm through, it will have all of the options. i'm still looking for a hillside drop bar. i do have the power takeoff for it. and this was the -- so i understand the first tractor to come out with the power takeoff. one interesting thing on this,...
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showers and thunderstorms from montana to arizona and new mexico. stormy also in parts of nth dakota, minnesota and wisconsin. and a wet day in the southeast with storms from the carolinas to florida. >> a high of 91 in miami. 90 itln ataan and 84 here in new york. upper 80s int. st. louis and detroit while fargo and minneapolis hit the 90s. just 67 in seattle, 71 in portland and 86 in sacramento. >>> and coming up, the new digital camera with the display on the front. >>> plus, detroit is hot again. at least one auto giant is ramping up production of thousands of new cars. >>> and the cub reporter who was a sensation on the campaign trail lands his biggest interview yet. an >>> ford is reversing the recent trend in the auto industry. the automaker is actually planni to increase auto production thanks to strong demand from the government's cash for clunkers program. ford would build an additional 10,000 cars in the third quarter. both models are top sellers under the rebate program. >>> the obama administration is easing some of the restrictions for
showers and thunderstorms from montana to arizona and new mexico. stormy also in parts of nth dakota, minnesota and wisconsin. and a wet day in the southeast with storms from the carolinas to florida. >> a high of 91 in miami. 90 itln ataan and 84 here in new york. upper 80s int. st. louis and detroit while fargo and minneapolis hit the 90s. just 67 in seattle, 71 in portland and 86 in sacramento. >>> and coming up, the new digital camera with the display on the front....
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chuck todd joins us in a moment from montana. plus, you know those end of life counsel prognosis visions in the health care bills which republicans, like sarah palin, have distorted into death panels? it turns out republicans were actually for end of life counseling before they were against it. that's just one of the inconsistencies we'll discuss with republican john culbertsoc. >> and how far has he fallen? there is a report that john edwards is about to finally admit he is the father of his mistress's child? where would he be if edwards had not been so wisely dejected by wise democratic voters last year. >> and bill clinton has some tough words on the networks crowd on don't ask don't tell. >> and what does it mean to be palinized? ask one who says it could easily happen to her. the definition coming up on the hardball side show. >>> first president obama and his latest push for health care reform. nbc news chief white house correspondent chuck todd is traveling with the president and joining us from montana. by my count there
chuck todd joins us in a moment from montana. plus, you know those end of life counsel prognosis visions in the health care bills which republicans, like sarah palin, have distorted into death panels? it turns out republicans were actually for end of life counseling before they were against it. that's just one of the inconsistencies we'll discuss with republican john culbertsoc. >> and how far has he fallen? there is a report that john edwards is about to finally admit he is the father of...
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that happened in montana. you know my lease iris? you watch and montana. >> no, i don't. i'm a fan of her father's music. >> mike: look at a piece of tape here. she is only 16. which he pulled dancing at the teen choice awards? that's a no-no. we will show you the footage on the comeback. the flowers are blooming. the air is sweet. and zyrtec® starts... relieving my allergies... 2 hours faster than claritin®. my worst symptoms feel better, indoors and outdoors. with zyrtec®, the fastest... 24-hour allergy medicine, i promise not to wait as long to go for our ride. zyrtec® works fast, so i can love the air™. that's a-- tiny netbook. yeah, it's-- good-looking, lightweight. generally awesome. and you could just-- go online, video-chat with my cousin. this is un-- under $200. are you some kind of-- mind reader, visionary ? no, i have them. huh. the new lightweight hp mini netbook with windows and america's largest and most-reliable 3g network built in. only 199.99 with mobile broadband plans from 39.99 i am-- speechless, envious. wanna be me right now. getting one. "wha
that happened in montana. you know my lease iris? you watch and montana. >> no, i don't. i'm a fan of her father's music. >> mike: look at a piece of tape here. she is only 16. which he pulled dancing at the teen choice awards? that's a no-no. we will show you the footage on the comeback. the flowers are blooming. the air is sweet. and zyrtec® starts... relieving my allergies... 2 hours faster than claritin®. my worst symptoms feel better, indoors and outdoors. with zyrtec®, the...
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>> i have been to montana, that is one of the most nra saturated states in america. people take their personal liberties very seriously there. even for someone to stand up and say that i am an nra member, this would normally rattle the roof. i bought that was very revealing. let's assume that it was totally on the up and up and very legitimate. there are still some things that the president said today that are not getting near the target. for example, he continues to use the phrase 47 million. that figure is nonsense. there are a number of people who are uninsured because they don't fill out the forms yet they already qualify for medicaid and medicare. there are 12 million illegal aliens, is the president for to pay for every illegal person? there are a number of people who could afford insurance but they choose not to have it because they would rather have a new track or go to dinner more often. let's be honest about the figure. if we want to cover 5 million americans that cannot have insurance, i don't know anyone who has a problem with that. that is not that diffi
>> i have been to montana, that is one of the most nra saturated states in america. people take their personal liberties very seriously there. even for someone to stand up and say that i am an nra member, this would normally rattle the roof. i bought that was very revealing. let's assume that it was totally on the up and up and very legitimate. there are still some things that the president said today that are not getting near the target. for example, he continues to use the phrase 47...
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, montana! >> reporter: he came on a mission to change the increasingly angry debate over health care reform, saying americans are being held hostage by insurance companies. >> it's wrong. it's bankrupting families. it's bankrupting businesses. and we are going to fix it when we pass health insurance reform this year. >> reporter: but randy wanted to know how the government would pay for it. >> and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. >> the president said 2/3 of the plan would be paid for by eliminating waste. the other third could come from raising taxes on the wealthy. >> we've got to get over this notion that somehow we can have something for nothing. but that's part of how we got into the deficit and the debt that we're in the first place. >> reporter: in past meetings across the country, members of congress have been feeling the heat. people outraged over what they see as more government intrusion into their lives. e presi
, montana! >> reporter: he came on a mission to change the increasingly angry debate over health care reform, saying americans are being held hostage by insurance companies. >> it's wrong. it's bankrupting families. it's bankrupting businesses. and we are going to fix it when we pass health insurance reform this year. >> reporter: but randy wanted to know how the government would pay for it. >> and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us...
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he came close here in montana. people here on the ground are telling me they're very concerned about government spending and they want to put the brakes on this health reform effort. >>> spend a day in the tiny town of livingston, montana, and you quickly see why the president's health care push is facing big problems in big sky country -- even from those he's trying to help. >> we've got two kids. my husband is the only one working. >> macdonald is uninsured so she gets discounted dental work at the local clinic, she voted for the president and agrees there needs to be reform but is worried about the details. >> i believe there's a health care crisis, i do. do i believe that the government needs to be more involved? no. i think when they get their fingers in the pot, it just kind of turns black. >> a common sentiment here where a second obama voter told us government is too big. >> we just spent so much money on the stimulus and the tarp. then add another huge entitlement in the form of the public option. >> the m
he came close here in montana. people here on the ground are telling me they're very concerned about government spending and they want to put the brakes on this health reform effort. >>> spend a day in the tiny town of livingston, montana, and you quickly see why the president's health care push is facing big problems in big sky country -- even from those he's trying to help. >> we've got two kids. my husband is the only one working. >> macdonald is uninsured so she gets...
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so why did he choose montana? >> reporter: well, i think what the white house is trying to say is, look, the president is not afraid to take on his critics head on o head-on. there was an open process in terms of the tickets. we talked to some democrats who waited in line to get tickets. there were conservatives in line as well who were critical of the president. he may get tough questions today. i think the president wants to show he's not afraid of a fight. he wants to show maybe he's not all hat, no cattle. >> all right. nor are you, as we know. ed henry. >> reporter: thanks, christi. >> we appreciate it. take care. >>> i know so many of you have been asking for more information on health care reform because it does seem so blurry in many areas, doesn't it? there is one central place where you can find some answers. go to cnn.com/health care. we have it there for you. you'll find coverage of the town halls, including how to find one year you, and you can upload your town hall i-report, too. there's information
so why did he choose montana? >> reporter: well, i think what the white house is trying to say is, look, the president is not afraid to take on his critics head on o head-on. there was an open process in terms of the tickets. we talked to some democrats who waited in line to get tickets. there were conservatives in line as well who were critical of the president. he may get tough questions today. i think the president wants to show he's not afraid of a fight. he wants to show maybe he's...
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he tells us the president is mixing business with pleasure in big sky montana. >> reporter: sure, montana is a nice place to visit this time of year. the president had more on his mind than fly fishing. he came for urgent business. buttering up the state's senior senator and chairman of the finance committee who could hold the fate of health care in his hands. >> first of all, the man working tirelessly to make sure americans get a fair deal when it comes to health care in america. give him a big round of applause. >> reporter: in private, top presidential advisors said the fight reached a critical stage. the opposition gained steam, capitalizing on anger over bail outs and debt. >> where does it state government has these powers to take over health care. >> by comparison, the president's town hall was tame. he got one pointed question that reflected the strong opposition he's facing. >> we keep getting the bull. that's all we get, bull. you can't tell us how you are going to pay for this. the only way to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> look, you are absolu
he tells us the president is mixing business with pleasure in big sky montana. >> reporter: sure, montana is a nice place to visit this time of year. the president had more on his mind than fly fishing. he came for urgent business. buttering up the state's senior senator and chairman of the finance committee who could hold the fate of health care in his hands. >> first of all, the man working tirelessly to make sure americans get a fair deal when it comes to health care in america....